I went to San Francisco State University but dropped out in my third year. I was having problems with my seizures, not going to classes, and eventually my parents didn’t have the money to keep sending me. After I left college, my friend who worked at Otis Art Institute got me a job working at the dark room. There I got back to my photography practice. My friend convinced me to go to Japan with him for a couple of weeks to photograph. I modeled for him a lot there and at home. He was a very good printer, produced very tastefully done images that I used as an example of excellent black and white printing for my early classes. At that time, I was interested in street photography. I was inspired by Garry Winogrand who had barrels full of work - unprocessed film - when he died. He knew how to photograph people on the streets as they ARE, not just what they look like.
At one point, soon after I got married, I went back to school in northern California to complete my BFA and stayed to do an MA in photography. Later on, I decided I wanted to get an MFA so I could teach and ended up in Rochester, New York at the Visual Studies Workshop.